A spat between the legislature and Gov. Roy Cooper鈥檚 administration could affect the leadership of the State Bureau of Investigation.
A House committee held a hearing Tuesday about recent . He claims Cooper鈥檚 top aides meddled in his agency and tried to get him to resign. The agency, one of the state鈥檚 top law enforcement organizations, is set up independently from other branches of state government, but its director is appointed by the governor with the legislature鈥檚 confirmation.
Cooper鈥檚 aides faced hours of questioning about it at the hearing, including from Rep. Allen Chesser, R-Nash.
鈥淲e鈥檙e here to investigate what an independent agency actually looks like and who has oversight over that, and how much pressure can be exerted upon them,鈥� Chesser said.
Cooper鈥檚 chief of staff, Kristi Jones, said she met with the SBI director to review allegations made about the agency, although she declined to get specific about the claims.
鈥淪erious allegations of concerns were brought to the attention of the governor鈥檚 office, and when those concerns were brought, we had to take those seriously,鈥� Jones said. 鈥淎nd those were shared with Director Schurmeier.鈥�
The hearing featured several testy exchanges between Republican lawmakers and the Cooper officials. At one point, Jones called for a round of applause for the SBI staff.
鈥淢a鈥檃m, we don鈥檛 do that in this committee,鈥� Rep. Sarah Stevens, R-Surry, interjected.
The committee鈥檚 chairman, Rep. Harry Warren, R-Rowan, then admonished Jones, saying, 鈥淭his hearing is not about them [SBI staff] 鈥� respond to the questions and discontinue any attempts to divert the attention of this hearing.鈥�
Jones, Cooper General Counsel Eric Fletcher, and SBI General Counsel Angel Gray repeatedly declined to answer some of the legislators鈥� questions, citing the confidentiality of personnel matters and attorney-client privilege.
As the meeting concluded, Warren suggested that a second hearing could be scheduled to question the same group. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 feel like we made a lot of progress to the original intent of the meeting,鈥� he said.
House Democrats voiced their own frustrations about the hearing. 鈥淚 haven鈥檛 seen the mission statement of this committee,鈥� said Rep. Carla Cunningham, D-Mecklenburg. 鈥淲hat are we supposed to be finding 鈥� that there are issues with personnel? Those are everyday activities.鈥�
The hearing and the kerfuffle come at a period of transition for the SBI.
Last week, Cooper , State Capitol Police Chief Chip Hawley, to replace Schurmeier when his term expires next year. But lawmakers, including Rep. Jeff McNeely, R-Iredell, suggested they might not confirm him, and that could leave Schurmeier in charge longer.
McNeely made the case that legislative inaction on the Hawley nomination would leave the previous director in place on an interim basis. An attorney for Cooper declined to say if he agreed with McNeely鈥檚 interpretation of that scenario.
Schurmeier was appointed by Republican Gov. Pat McCrory in 2016.
